Jesus said that the days would come when anti-Christs, false-prophets and false teachers-even those who claim to be followers of Jesus would appear. John tells us in his epistles that many Anti-Christs have come. One such deceiver-is a servant of Satan and false teacher named Jefferson Bethke. This Anti-Christ spends his time attacking Christianity and the Church. He is more active and effective than many atheists. I read his trashy article entitled "Jesus was not about the "good ole days" that appeared on the RINO network's website (that's www.foxnews.com.). What I find most disturbing is that Thomas Nelson, a traditionally conservative evangelical publishing company, prints this man's garbage and anti-Christian propaganda. I sent Mr. Bethke-this son of Belial, this letter today.
Here is my analysis of your continuing attack upon the body of Christ, the work of Christ and indeed, Christ Himself.
Jesus said, "narrow is the way, that leads to life, and few day it" and "broad is the way that leads to destruction." You would have us abandon Jesus and his way and follow the world-to destruction. You have turned your back on the Lord Jesus and are an enemy of the cross of Christ! You need to repent-and if you are not going to-please leave the church and stop attacking the Body of Christ-you DEVIL!
Jesus was not about the 'good old days'
Published October 13, 2013
It is obvious from reading your article that you are an uneducated person. No one who had a theological education could possibly make profoundly ignorant remarks.
Also, you do not possess the Mind of Christ but think in a carnal, unregenerate manner.
First off, your basic premise is incorrect.
I read a book entitled "Young Jesus" by Jean-Pierre Isbouts. This man is not a conservative. He says "Jesus's "Kingdom of God" program aimed to restore the ancient socio-religious village culture of the Galilean peasantry, steadily being torn asunder by the misrule of Herod the Great and his son Antipas."How was it being torn asunder? By exploitative and confiscatory taxation. By the Imperial rule of Rome, in which the people of Israel lost their status as citizens and were reduced to subjects and slaves of the Empire. In my opinion, this is exactly what the Democratic Party is doing today. So according the Isbouts, Jesus was about restoring the "good old days."
As the "who's in and who's out" debate -- recently criticized by Pope Francis -- storms on within the church, many voices declare that all would be well in America if we could just return to "conservative Christian biblical values."
Who is saying "all would be well"? I think that it is obvious that families were better off before than they are not. Before President Johnson's "War on Poverty" 25% of all African American Children were born out of wedlock. Now it is over 75%. And now, whites are over 35% born out of wedlock and it was under 5%. Although Liberals call themselves "progressives"-this isn't progress. These failed policies are destroying peoples lives by the millions! And yet, people like you attack the prophetic voice that speaks the truth! Why do Liberals pursue policies that harm people-why not examine to see if you are really helping people-and if you are doing more harm than good-and the liberals are-stop and develop a more effective strategy. The problem is that they are blinded by an ideology.
It is the Liberals who think "all will be well" when you have totalitarian control over every ones life and the state can control even what people think and believe. It is the Liberals who are Utopians who believe that government is the answer for everything. Evangelicals know that man is fallen and sinful and that "all will be well" only when Jesus returns and established God's Kingdom on earth as it is in heaven.
[Pope Francis said the church had grown "obsessed" with abortion, gay marriage and contraception, and said it should focus more on socioeconomic issues.]
First off, I view Pope Francis as an Anti-Pope. Secondly, he is wrong. It is the Left who obsesses about homosexuality, abortion and contraception. We the church do two things: 1 Present the Good News of Jesus Christ and 2 Provide moral clarity on contemporary issues based on the Scriptures. Contraception is so readily available it not an issue. Walmarts have entire aisles of birth control. However, Obama Care wants to force Churches and Christian Colleges to pay for abortions and give students of Bible Schools free condoms. Isn't that a gross violation of the separation of church and state?
I have many questions. First, why are you opposing people who believe in Biblical Values? Secondly, what church have you gone to? You are far more judgmental in your hateful comments attacking the body of Christ that any church I have ever been to. You are a false Christian fighting against Christ. The Lord rebuke you! You are not operating in the Holy Spirit but in a carnal satanic spirit.
But they're fighting the wrong battle. In fact, they might actually be a part of the problem, not the solution.
So, now we see you are engaging in a "who's in and who's out" debate! Conservative Evangelicals are the problem not the solution!
The real problem this country faces is the Liberal Establishment that holds a monopoly on entertainment, news, academia, education, the judiciary, and the bureaucracy. This is the oppressive power structure that needs to be overthrown.
I am not totally against liberalism, I am for a market place of ideas. What I am against is how liberals exclude different points of view and ostracize and demonize voices of dissent-often by using inflammatory rhetoric and name calling-using such pejorative terms as "religious right," "homophobic" and baseless claims of racism.
Weakminded people, such as yourself, easily fall prey to such a system. Indeed, Jesus said it would be this way. He said that there would be such a great deception that even the Elect, if possible, would be deceived and that many would fall away.
Jesus isn't after restoring America as "Christian" or getting back to the good ol' days. (Side note, by the way: it really bothers me when people say they want to get back to the "good ol' days," as if white people owning black people as property and women being seen as second class citizens was somehow "good".)
Are you a historian?
What bothers me more is that Christians were held as slaves in Sudan less than 15 years ago. I think this is more important that what happened 150 years ago. It bothers me that 3 million, mostly Sudanese Christians, were killed in Sudan, for their faith. I imagine that you didn't know this. What bothers me is that genocide and ethnic cleansing of Christians in Egypt, Syria and Iraq is going on right now. And it wouldn't surprise me that you don't know about it-or if you did know that you don't care.
You were making historical claims- but-are you a historian? I strongly doubt it. I find your comments shallow and ignorant. You obviously don't know what you are talking about.
In the past, our ancestors struggled to survive. They didn't have the leisure we have today to reflect on grievance politics and the politics of victimization. These ideas wouldn't have occurred to many of them and many wouldn't have seen any value in voting if they had the right.
Slavery is a great evil, but all ancient empires were built on human and animal labor. We marvel at the pyramids and the Coliseum, but Egyptians and Romans forced people to build those imposing structures. What really has liberated people our technological advances. (John Deere liberated more people than Abraham Lincoln.) Just think about the electronic washing machine and drier. Have you ever thought about life without it? For a family to survive, the wife needed to do housework. It was necessity and survival. She needed her husband to provide for her and he needed her help so he could go and earn a living. Their thinking wasn't politicized in a way for either of them to imagine that she was "property." And often, they loved each other. Have you ever read Paul's reflections on love in 1 Corinthians 13?
America has been the greatest nation on earth, since its founding, and it was the best and freest nation on earth, even during the time in which the shameful practice of slavery was going on.
I recently read "Whose Religion is Christianity?" (It is by a Christian from Africa.) The author spent most of the book responding to Anti-Christian polemics and vitriol that we find in the Liberal Establishment over Academia, Information Media, and Entertainment.
Most of what these people say about Christian history isn't true. For instance, Medieval Historians do not believe there ever were "Dark Ages." Well, if historians of the period reject the idea of a "Dark Ages" where does the idea come from? It comes from movies and TV. See how powerful the disinformation is.
YOU can count yourself among the brainwashed!
"Defending Constantine" shows that most of what is said against Constantine is not historical. (Since your are a profoundly ignorant person-I need to tell you-Constantine was the Roman Emperor who ended the persecution of Christians. Google it. I wonder-does your education go beyond sixth grade?
I recommend that you read Rodney Stark's books especially "God's Battalions" (which shows that most of the common knowledge about the Crusades is also erroneous and many myths about the Crusades have been exposed long ago by Crusade historians).
I think that Rodney Stark's books are above your reading level. So, I suggest Rush Limbaugh's "Rush Revere and the Brave Pilgrims" to get you on the right track. If you have trouble with reading comprehension you can get your wife to read it to you-or maybe by the CD and listen to it.
The "if only" mentality is everywhere.
I don't have an "if only" attitude. I have a realistic attitude. I will try to change the world for Christ as long as I can-but it is obvious that America is no longer a free country or a functioning constitutional republic. Your mentality of buying into the anti-Christ world system and supporting a despot like Obama is the problem. You are willing to compromise the Gospel-if that isn't bad enough-you attack those who stand upon the word of God.
"If only we could go back to when Christians were the majority." "If only we could go back to when gay marriage was illegal."
Well, technically Christians are still in the majority. For now at least. Also, Christians have always been involved in politics. If we care about people, shouldn't we? Isn't it our civic duty to be involved in our government in a Republic? Christians in politics led the abolitionist movement against slavery and the civil rights movement against racial discrimination. You also had the temperance movement and Christian women involved in the suffrage movement. The political activist William Jennings Bryan led a crusade against racism and social Darwinism. Now Christians fight to protect Christian values-and to prevent Christians from being discriminated against by the racial left.
Also, people on the left are the ones who are hateful and intolerant. The writer of "Ender's Game" believes in Biblical Marriage. The vitriol against him-and calls for boycotts are shocking to me. The liberals will not allow people to believe in what God says. They want to punish belief in God's Word.
Also, they are the ones who are controlling and PETTY. People are dying from starvation, malnutrition and oppression around the world-and the latest cause of the left-don't dress up as an American Indian for Halloween. Who are they to tell me what to dress up as? Where will their controlling stop?
Look, now they have gay marriage what is next? In California they are putting boys and girls together in the showers-that's what's next. And Obama himself has called for "sex ed" teaching children how to masturbate and about homosexual sex acts in elementary school. What will happen to parents who object? They will be attacked by people like you-and once your actions have an effect on the culture-what's viewed as acceptable and not-then legal action will be taken against the parents who are opposed to the sexualization of their children. (Look at what happened in Helena, Montana just a couple of years ago.)
I have to give it to you-you are a champion in the fight against religious freedom and freedom of speech.
The problem I have with this "if only" mindset is, Jesus never spoke of such a thing. Never once do I read the New Testament and see Jesus saying, "You know what would be nice, Peter? If you get a bunch of people to get prayer into public schools!"
In fact, it's almost as if Jesus assumed that the normal societal powers would dislike his followers because the usual tools of the state (manipulation, fear, coercion, even death) seemed peculiarly ineffective against the disciples.
If you are insinuating that the church has such power or is using such power or intends to use such power-you are a fool. It is Christians who are powerless and are a target of the left-who are using fear and coercion to silence Christians. One way the government controls the church is through monitoring sermons to see if sermon content is acceptable or not. If the state doesn't like sermon content then they can take away the church's "non-profit" status. So we see freedom of speech and freedom of religion are limited. I don't believe that it is the states responsibility to monitor sermon content. I don't like what Jeremiah Wright says in his church, but I think free speech should be protected for everyone. Since the government approves of leftism, he and his ilk don't have to worry about fear and coercion from the manipulation of the IRS and the federal government.
"Christian" literally means "little Christ." So, if we say we are a Christian, we are to be a little Jesus -- attempting to emulate his behavior and language. That means if we want to bring about change in our cities, schools, etc., we need to look at how he did it.
Christian does not mean "little Christ." Where do you get this stuff? Why don't you do some research before you make such claims. (I have found that the less you know, the easier it is to make haughty claims. Such attacks and vitriol are signs of the unlearned mind.) The Greek word Χριστιανός (Christianos)—meaning "follower of Christ"—comes from Χριστός (Christos)—meaning "anointed one"—with an adjectival ending borrowed from Latin to denote adhering to, or even belonging to, as in slave ownership. Some scholars believe that "Christian" originally meant "Partisans of Christ."
If the Greek form were "christion" it which would indeed mean "little Christ," "little Messiah" or "little Anointed One."
But the Greek word underlying English "Christian" actually appears three times in the NT, and numerous times in Patristic and early Latin literature. And it's not christion, but as follows:
The reality is that christianus is a Latin form. This is a second declension, masculine noun, and the Greek forms are simply imitative of and adapted from the Latin. It was common at this time in both Latin and Hellenistic Greek to use this suffix to identify the adherents of a public figure. So we have all sorts of examples, such as
These forms refer to the adherents or partisans of these men, those who belong to them or are devoted to them. So a Christian is a partisan of Christ. The above forms don't mean "little Pompeys," "little Augustuses" or "little Herods."
If that is true, then the word does have a political connotation-as does the Greek word for Church, Ekklesia, which means Assembly-as in the Government Assembly-or "Congress."
Did he say, "Let's make sure the 10 Commandments stay in the courthouse!"
Jesus celebrated Hanukkah in John 10:22. Hanukkah was a celebration of a revolt against an attempt of the Greeks to erase all vestiges of the Bible from the culture. Jesus doesn't not support attempts to secularize the culture. The Kingdom of God is not a democracy. When Jesus comes again ALL law will be made subject to his law.
Taking down monuments of the Ten Commandments is a front in the lefts all out war against God and any and all vestiges of America's biblical foundation.
"Man, if only they stopped saying 'happy holidays' and really stood firm on 'Merry Christmas,' the world would be a better place."
The early Christians were put to death for refusing to throw a pinch of incense into a fire for an offering to the genius of the emperor. If you are so willing to give into state intimidation from even saying the very name of Christ-you have already denied him-and Jesus has denied you before the Father.
Government and businesses threatened to punish employees for saying "Merry Christmas" because they find the name of Jesus Christ, and the power of that name, offensive.
This is a form of religious persecution and a threat against free speech and freedom of religion. It is an attempt to create a climate of fear against expressing the Christian faith.
It is the government and businesses that are using fear, manipulation, and coercion against Christians and not vice versa.
When you read Acts, the story of the early Church, you see that Christians had zero governmental power and never pushed political agendas. In fact, they were even seen as enemies of the state in some regions.
From the point of view of the Roman authorities the Early Church was pushing a political agenda. And this is why they fed Christians to the lions. They saw the early Christians as a political threat. As Isbouts says they were considered "Un-Roman and hostile to the state."
Of course, repeating the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Apostles (see the Didache and the Epistle of Barnabas) the early Christians fought against abortion and infanticide. (The Democratic Party is the party of Sodom, killing unborn babies, and creating a totalitarian police state. Of course the Republican Party is almost as bad. Being led by Christ, how can we not be against such wicked and corrupt organizations?)
In the early church, people with political power and influence were coming to faith in Christ. People like the Centurian Cornelius and the Governor Sergius Paulus. I believe that Christians who have political authority, as these men had, should exercise their political authority in a godly manner.
You know who else has a political agenda? YOU DO! You wrote this paper to further your political agenda-your support of "gay marriage," abortion, and censorship or religious expression and religious speech.
A complete separation of Church and State is self-referentially incoherent and not a goal we should have. The abolitionist movement and many other social welfare movements were spearheaded by Christians. Also, without State support, there wouldn't have been a Protestant Reformation-it was a "Magisterial Reformation." If the German Princes had not given Martin Luther their political support-we wouldn't be where we are today as far as Evangelicalism is concerned.
The Roman Empire didn't like this group of people who worshipped an executed Jewish rabbi. They were the rejects, the mess ups, the marginalized, and the broken.
No one looked at the first Christians and thought, "Oh yeah, they are definitely going to change the world!"
Oh yes they did! They saw them as a threat to the power structures of the day. Hence the persecution. Is it that you don't read the Bible or is it that you don't have the intellect to understand and comprehend what you are reading? This could be because you are lacking the Holy Spirit of God because you are unregenerate. You can't understand the Scriptures because they are spiritually discerned.
But they did. They turned it upside down.
The question is, how?
I'd argue by the power of forgiveness, reconciliation, and sacrificial love.
You are insinuating that this is not what the church is preaching-and that is a damn lie and you know it! That makes you a LIAR-and not only that you are maligning Christ and his Church.
They went around telling everyone they didn't need to live in the old system -- there was a new king and that was good news! A new way, a new world, a new life had been inaugurated at the resurrection of Jesus. He literally kicked a hole right in the center of darkness, bringing new life to all who claim He is Lord.
OK-it is obvious that you are not a reading or thinking person-but I will try to help you out here. I read a book some time ago called "Lost Worlds of Africa"-I think the author was named Willard. It had a chapter on why the Romans persecuted Christians-because they viewed the Gospel as political and a political threat to the empire-and it was.
This theme has also been explored by the liberal Marcus Borg. I don't agree with a lot of what he has to say-but he is an intelligent person. I read through "Meeting Jesus Again for the First Time," some of what he wrote, I disagreed with, but I think he is right that Christianity was political and revolutionary. It was a movement against the Roman Empire. (I think that is what the Revelation of John is really all about.) Francis Schaeffer once said that Christianity is neither conservative nor liberal-its revolutionary. I think Jesus, for his day and time could be considered "liberal." However, Jesus is appalled at modern liberalism, which has three core beliefs sodomy, killing unborn children, and the creation of a totalitarian state that rules over its subjects with the same Imperial rule that Rome subjected the people it ruled over with. Total control and power not only over life and death-but to control what you think, how you think, and what you are to believe.
How does this look in practice?
Well, take gay marriage for example. How about instead of trying to legislate morality and do everything in your power to vote gay marriage down, you walk across the street and invite Chuck, your gay neighbor, over for dinner?
All laws are legislated morality. If a law is an immoral law, it isn't a valid law and needs to be abolished. It is against the law to kill, to steal, and to physically injure another person because to do so are immoral acts. In a republic, citizens have the right to ensure laws are just, fair and moral.
You take all these shallow liberal slogans and repeat them without thinking them through. Why?
Ask him how you can serve him. Ask him how he's been hurt by certain ways of thinking. Ask him how you might be a good neighbor to him.
Friendship with the world is enmity against God. You hate your brothers and sisters in Christ-and condone of sin. (I don't believe you know God-it is evident in your piece. So, you are no brother of mine.) Love doesn't condone sin.
I don't hate homosexuals and I try to have a non-judgmental attitude towards those with whom I degree. Unless of course, they want to be hateful, attack me, my faith and fight. I am ready to provide an answer and a defense.
I think we have to serve the Lord first. Also, our mission is to liberate the homosexual, so that he may serve the Lord, instead of being a slave to sin. Jesus warned that an evil day would come when it would be "as it was in the days of Lot." And so, here we are. And yet to you-these are the "good ole days." This is because you don't know God. Jesus warned against Sodomy. As did Paul, Jude the Lord's Brother, (whose views a place more value in that in your twisted and perverted way of thinking). Also, John the Revelator condemned homosexual conduct. So we see here is that the problem you have is with the Word of God (and God the Word) and the teaching of the Apostles.
About your Gay friend-I try to be compassionate and understanding-BUT Jesus taught the Gospel of the Kingdom-and NOT "how to win friends and influence people." If someone knowingly rejects God's gift of salvation and basic morality-that is to bad for them-and they are going to face God's judgment. Therefore, it is their problem and not mine.
If he is hurt by God's way of thinking-that is his problem! What about the 60 million unborn children slaughtered in their mother's wombs? We have the Holy Spirit. God's Holy Spirit is grieved at this massive slaughter. Jesus said that we have the Spirit and that the Holy Spirit will lead the church and speak through the Church. You do not have the HOLY SPIRIT otherwise you wouldn't speak against God. The Holy Spirit condemns abortion and homosexual marriage and the left-wing war against the family and the word of God.
You have chosen to stand with the world against the Eternal Word of God.
Because let's be honest, the tides are changing and we are no longer the moral majority, but rather the prophetic minority. And personally I'd like to be known as the minority that shows love in such a way it turns the world upside down.
I am not interested in following popular trends. I follow Jesus Christ. And things are very fluid. It is possible that the Republicans can take back the Congress in 2014 and all branches of government in 2016. It could happen. But the Republican Party is almost as corrupt as the Democrat Party. We follow Christ-in everything. He is above all. Christians becoming a powerless minority may be a goal of yours-and a hope of yours-but it may not happen-You could be wrong about your forecasts.
If the "religious" people of the day are spewing the same charge against us as they did in Acts 17 (see below), then we are probably doing something right.
Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus was opposed to the religious people of his day? That is your incorrect interpretation.
The current "establishment" is the Left. Christians are not in a position of power. The religious people of Christ's day would include those people who followed the Christ and John the Baptist. Wouldn't it? "Religious people" means people who believe in God and desire to follow and obey him (or, from your point of view "the enemy/the problem").
The Sadducees were liberals who were willing to compromise with the world-as represented by the ruling Imperial Roman power.
The Herodians were those who were willing to suppress religious expression in society in order to strengthen the power of the state. Thus, they persecuted the Baptist and the Christ. You sir, are a Herodian.
The Pharisees were legalists similar to today's Orthodox Jews or Muslims. They were concerned about diet, dress, and observances of religious festivals.
Evangelical Christians are not like the Pharisees. The only Christian groups that could possibly be compared to the Pharisees would be the Amish or perhaps some "Oneness" Pentecostals.
What the Sadducess, the Herodians, and the Pharisees did have in common was their opposition to Jesus Christ, his followers and his message. You are sharing in their work.
So, it seems to me that you are a modern day Sadducee, Herodian and Pharisee all rolled into one.
"These men who have turned the world upside down have come here also [….] and they are all acting against the decrees of Caesar, saying that there is another king, Jesus." Acts 17:6
Jefferson Bethke is creator of the YouTube sensation "Why I Hate Religion But Love Jesus" and author of the new book "Jesus>Religion: Why He Is So Much Better Than Trying Harder, Doing More, and Being Good Enough," (Thomas Nelson, October 2013).
Part of the Problem with the Left is that you all reject Christ's saying "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and to God the things that are God's." You make an idol out of the government. You worship the government as god-and/or the leftist "leader" like Obama. The Left wants the government and courts to have god-like power and to control all aspects of peoples lives.
I am not totally against liberalism. I am for a free marketplace of ideas. What I am against is how liberals exclude different points of view and demonize all opposition using name-calling and pejorative terms such as "religious right," "homophobic," "right-wing" and false accusations of racism-and as the Southern Poverty Law Center has recently done-and the US Military-classify Born Again Evangelical Christians as a "hate group."
You are making baseless hateful attacks on the church in the typical liberal manner. (It isn't "liberal" to use such tactics. Liberals should be tolerant of different points of views. The most hateful and intolerant people I have EVER come across are self-professed liberals and progressives. I have never met a Conservative or Republican more full of hate, anger and intolerance, than a liberal. Most rational people, excluding liberals, respect peoples right to hold and opinion and to state it. And in typical liberal fashion that is what your paper is attacking.
Take "gay marriage." What this is really about isn't the right of gay people to marry-its about passing laws against people who believe in the Bible. This is a fact. It is all documented in the book and documentary series "Speechless: The War against Christians."
I don't hate gays. I believe in the Bible and in freedom of speech and religion. I perceive this as being under threat from the left.
Currently, I have the right to speak freely. This seems to me what you are attacking-the right of Christians to voice their concerns and petition their government.
Also, you seem to want to silence the church from being God's prophetic voice to the world.
These words you wrote are going to testify against you on judgment day.
I noticed in your other works that you attack Christian "religious people."
YOU ARE AN ANTI-CHRIST. You oppose the Christ, the Church he founded and his teachings.
WHAT SHOULD YOU DO?
I think that you would fit right in with Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris. You should call them up. I think they are very appreciative of the work that you have done on their behalf.
You need to stop posing as an Evangelical Christian. Please "get thee hence, you Satan, you who oppose the things of God and think in a strictly carnal manner." Go join Marcus Borg and John Dominic Crossan in their left-wing activism. At least they are honest about what they believe and they are both thinking people, unlike you. (Therefore, even though I disagree with them, I grant them a measure of respect.)
Stop pretending to be a born again Christian and go join and work with your left-wing buddies.
The other option is for you to repent and stop doing harm to the body of Christ. I am shocked that Thomas Nelson is printing your ignorant garbage.
I am surprised to see that Thomas Nelson has stooped to publishing your anti-Christian hate literature.
If you were a Christian-you wouldn't hate God's people, as you clearly do. Neither do you have the love of God in your heart. The Bible says how can you say you love God when you hate your brother? How can you say you love God, whom you cannot see, when you hate your brother, who you do see. Why are you casting all these lies and aspersions upon the body of Christ? I believe it is because you are of the evil one. You are a son of Belial.
I pray that you do convert and submit yourself to Christ and then you must apply yourself to healing the wounds you did to the church, undoing the damage you have done to God's people and then publically confess your sin and lead those whom you have led astray back to the fountain of life and truth.
You think as a man thinks not as God –and do not have an eternal perspective
Heaven and earth will pass away but my word will not pass away.
The flower fades-but the word of God endures forever
1 John 2:17, "And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever."
A house divided against itself cannot stand stand-America will collapse before God's word fails.
However, things can change-if Republicans take the House and Senate in 2014 and the White House in 2016-which is possible.
Friendship with the world is enmity against God
Broad is the Way that leads to destruction
Woe unto you when men speak well of you-for so they spoke of the false prophets
Jesus preached the Gospel of the Kingdom not "How to Win Friends and Influence People"
It should be remembered that when Jesus was a child, it was prophesied over him that he would be a sign that would be spoken against.
The cross is a scandal to the world-it is God's power for Salvation.
Some people my protest that the way I am speaking about and to you isn't Christian. Well, what you write and say isn't Christian either-in fact it's Anti-Christ.
THE LORD REBUKE YOU!